BugSir006 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 21 hours ago, -ody- said: it may not be closed, it may just be down, which already happened several times. Hi -ody-, Thank you for your reply. If you experience the issue again please let me know your country and city, our dev team will solve it quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zork Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, BugSir006 said: Thank you for your reply. If you experience the issue again please let me know your country and city, our dev team will solve it quickly. Or maybe it is better not to ask the country and the city every time, but to make the QA page off-line, as we ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, zork said: Or maybe it is better not to ask the country and the city every time, but to make the QA page off-line, as we ask? Hi zork, I have just contacted the leader of the dev team again, currently, the offline QA won't be added. It is not a simple work and cannot be added easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ody- Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 43 minutes ago, BugSir006 said: currently, the offline QA won't be added. It is not a simple work and cannot be added easily. really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, -ody- said: really ? Offline QA won't be added. If they back to the offline QA, it will also have other issues. So if you run into issues with current QA page please let me know, the dev team will solve it quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, BugSir006 said: Hi zork, I have just contacted the leader of the dev team again, currently, the offline QA won't be added. It is not a simple work and cannot be added easily. i echo ody's comment above - if we can have local favourites how can it be any harder to have offline QA - i read too difficult as cannot be bothered Tony - Vivaldi 4 on Windows 10 64Bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zork Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, BugSir006 said: Offline QA won't be added. If they back to the offline QA, it will also have other issues. So if you run into issues with current QA page please let me know, the dev team will solve it quickly. Maybe Jeff will comment such statements? Dev's added the useless button to the extensions site, what for? Anyone asked for it? There are no usefull extensions, except a couple of must have, like ViolentMonkey. Do you think users are fools? Making QA off-line is not difficult (saying the opposite, you are lying), there is only a lack of desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, zork said: Maybe Jeff will comment such statements? Dev's added the useless button to the extensions site, what for? Anyone asked for it? There are no usefull extensions, except a couple of must have, like ViolentMonkey. Do you think users are fools? Making QA off-line is not difficult (saying the opposite, you are lying), there is only a lack of desire. 27 minutes ago, Tony said: i echo ody's comment above - if we can have local favourites how can it be any harder to have offline QA - i read too difficult as cannot be bothered The difficulty is not the skill code, this issue related to commercial cooperation. The browser company also needs food... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, BugSir006 said: The difficulty is not the skill code, this issue related to commercial cooperation. The browser company also needs food... now we get to it - but i have no idea how a QA page located on a server generates money - please explain Tony - Vivaldi 4 on Windows 10 64Bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tony said: now we get to it - but i have no idea how a QA page located on a server generates money - please explain We will run some commercial ads on the QA page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ody- Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, BugSir006 said: We will run some commercial ads on the QA page. so when you don't reply, it's because you have something in mind you don't want us to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, -ody- said: so when you don't reply, it's because you have something in mind you don't want us to know I don't know the detailed business cooperation issue. Because I am a bug sir and not a business sir. I can test your feedback, record your request then report to the related teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, BugSir006 said: We will run some commercial ads on the QA page. then i suggest users will not use the page or simply find another browser - look at the shout when you add a [non] commercial ad as a company scraping the bottom of the browser market you really dont understand your users imo Tony - Vivaldi 4 on Windows 10 64Bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zork Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Tony said: then i suggest users will not use the page or simply find another browser - look at the shout when you add a [non] commercial ad as a company scraping the bottom of the browser market you really dont understand your users imo Fully agree with Tony. And besides, your ad is easily blocked by ABP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7twenty Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 I find that an odd response. I can't see how this is a problem, coding wise or commercial. Local QA data is accessed from the local store, the same way it was before they started the cloud thing; and if they want ads all over the place it gets pulled in as required. So the QA page is local along with the data, just that there's links to get the ads as required. I could be wrong there, i'm not all up with how that all works... but in theory i think that's how it plays out. But maybe there's more to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantantrollo Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 Are we already seeing the ears of the wolf? Because it seemed clear that it was not a technical issue, after all, the QA file is already in local "QaConfig.dat", it would only be the deactivation of the request to their servers, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowLeopard Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 3:47 AM, zork said: Maybe Jeff will comment such statements? Dev's added the useless button to the extensions site, what for? Anyone asked for it? There are no usefull extensions, except a couple of must have, like ViolentMonkey. Do you think users are fools? Making QA off-line is not difficult (saying the opposite, you are lying), there is only a lack of desire. Ihavetoagreewith taeserecentcomments concerningoffline QA. Thestatement ofbeing"toodifficult"iscontradictedby theOFFLINE QA in Guestmode. Now, if we want a QA that works offline but also permits syncing at the user's command, there may be some problems. There does seem to be a way (a kludgy way) around this; add an opyion in Import user data, to import from the Mx5 account user data to the Guest account and vice versa. This would permit syncing, but in a mre complicated way that may confuse users. I have also tested 5.2.6.300 without an Internet connection at launch. I got the security dialog saying thebrowser is abnormal, and asking me "Lonin again. I click Later. AND QA loads locally. I had testedths a reported it here #18 in this thread. I restored the Internet connection and as long as nothingis changed in QA I won;have any problem. Since Maxthon "thinks" I'm not logged into my account, it shouldn't call the server during this session. <<SL>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zork Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 As i see Dev's didn't care about users. @Jeff is silent... And as a temporary solution for off-line QA - we can modify hosts file. Add this strings: 0.0.0.0 pc-newtab.maxthon.com 0.0.0.0 pc-newtab.maxthonimg.com But QA is not the only problem with constant requests to external servers. Max constantly connects to smarturl.sync.maxthon.com and smarturl-up.maxthon.com even if in the settings this option is disabled. Why? Chekbox do nothing. This must be fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, zork said: But QA is not the only problem with constant requests to external servers. Max constantly connects to smarturl.sync.maxthon.com and smarturl-up.maxthon.com even if in the settings this option is disabled. Why? Chekbox do nothing. This must be fixed! Hi zork, Do you mean smart address bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zork Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, BugSir006 said: Hi zork, Do you mean smart address bar? I mean constant and non-disconnected requests to smarturl.sync.maxthon.com and smarturl-up.maxthon.com! On-line QA, connections to update.maxthon.com etc. We don't need these features.Stop this mockery!!!! We should be able to turn them off. I do not need browser that starts for 5 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, zork said: I mean constant and non-disconnected requests to smarturl.sync.maxthon.com and smarturl-up.maxthon.com! On-line QA, connections to update.maxthon.com etc. We don't need these features.Stop this mockery!!!! I do not need browser that starts for 5 minutes! Hi zork, If you uncheck that option, it will send the request but won't connect properly. It will return the 403 or 404 results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zork Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, BugSir006 said: If you uncheck that option, it will send the request but won't connect properly. It will return the 403 or 404 results. I know! And I also blocked all unnecessary requests with firewall. But the main problem that users can't disable them! To many unnecessary connections and as a result - Slow browser with a very long startup time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugSir006 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 41 minutes ago, zork said: long startup time Hi zork, This issue has been reported to the dev team as a bug. It will be improved as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantantrollo Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, BugSir006 said: Hi zork, If you uncheck that option, it will send the request but won't connect properly. It will return the 403 or 404 results. The other problem is that I do not want or need to use this service (since it is optional), but when it is not used, the certificates of the secure connections (SSL / TLS) of the websites are NOT shown and with this I you oblige to use your protection service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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