suave

Maxthon Add-ons beta has launched, have a try.

Any comments or questions, please leave here. It's very appreciated for us.

If you find some add-ons developed by youself but the author is Suave Su now, please signin addons.maxthon.com once, and claim to me {PM or Email: suave [at] maxthon [dot] net}. I'll change the author info for you ASAP.

paddymx

suave and jarC,

Thanks for the Skin reference, very much needed. Site looks good! []


I see that you have allowed users to "Edit" the reference! IMHO, this is not a good idea. To maintain a certain "documentation standard", suggestions/additions should be "submitted" for inclusion before they are added to the site. Besides, updates should also be tested for accuracy. I understand this is a Beta and many updates are comming, but, as this will probably be the "Official" reference, certain "standards" should be maintained. I understand this would create an additional burdon on someone, perhaps a "core user", but as Maxthon becomes more advanced and perhaps more mainstream, presentation becomes more and more important.

Just a thought

JarC

@Suave

By the time the site is up again, this may already have been changed, can't check at the moment as the site seems down.

The short time I could check it (it went dead just 5 minutes ago 14:45 local time), the links on the left (how to make...) directly went to the M2 specific pages. I suggest that these links be moved to the actual section and have them be linked to the appropriate help pages. (MX2 skins sections links to M2:SkinReference, MX1 skins links to M1:SkinReference, etc)

Quote: Original posted by paddymx at 2007-5-15 11:01

suave and jarC,

Thanks for the Skin reference, very much needed. Site looks good! []

Don't thank me. I have had no part in setting up addons.maxthon.com and the skin info is just a preliminary translation, not the official one...it may get replaced by an official translation any time.

PS. the skin reference is part of the expected Wiki, it is just linked from the addons site, so let's keep the discussion here limited to addons.maxthon.com only, thanks for your cooperation.

Quote: Original posted by paddymx at 2007-5-15 11:01

I see that you have allowed users to "Edit" the reference! IMHO, this is not a good idea.

I'm not sure what you mean, but if you mean that you can edit the descriptions of things you submitted yourself, than that is entirly as intended. I assume that there will be a notice if a plugin or skin submission has not been "approved" yet much like as is shown on res.maxthon.com for new submissions

paddymx

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suave and jarC,

Thanks for the Skin reference, very much needed. Site looks good! " border="0" alt="thumbsup.gif" />

Don't thank me. I have had no part in setting up addons.maxthon.com

Sorry, saw you ID in several places and thought you were involved.

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it is just linked from the addons site, so let's keep the discussion here limited to addons.maxthon.com only, thanks for you cooperation. " border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Will do. " border="0" alt="thumbsup.gif" />

suave

Quote: Original posted byJarC at 2007-05-15 08:49

@Suave By the time the site is up again, this may already have been changed, can't check at the moment as the site seems down. The short time I could check it (it went dead just 5 minutes ago 14:45 local time), the links on the left (how to make...) directly went to the M2 specific pages. I suggest that these links be moved to the actual section and have them be linked to the appropriate help pages. (MX2 skins sections links to M2:SkinReference, MX1 skins links to M1:SkinReference, etc)

I was doing the server maintain & update maybe in the five minutes, I'm so sorry to stop the service [] I dont understand very clearly, you mean I set a wrong link on M2 Skin reference, or add M1 Skin reference at there?

JarC

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I was doing the server maintain & update maybe in the five minutes, I'm so sorry to stop the service

" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> No need for apologies " border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> things happen.

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I dont understand very clearly, you mean I set a wrong link on M2 Skin reference, or add M1 Skin reference at there?

I am sorry foor poor explanation.

At top of the pages is a row of buttons

Home | Plugins | M1X Skins | M2X Skins | Filters


When visiting Home - How to build Maxthon Skin goes to M2:Skin Reference
perhaps from home it should link to start page of Help.Maxthon?

When Visiting M1X Skins - How to build Maxthon Skin goes to M2:Skin Reference
should perhaps better point to M1:Skin Reference (M2 reference is of no interrest to M1 user)

M1:Skin Reference page does not yet have content but that will change.


Or perhaps always point to a MX:Developer Info page (does not exist, but could be created as in-between-page). If that page has links to skin reference and plugin reference for both M1 and M2. User can choose correct one at destination.

? is just an idea. Tell me what you think.

JarC

I have tried two times now to submit a M1 skin, both times I received the msg that it was done, but when trying to access what I uploaded (through the tags on my add-ons page) I get told that there is no post to be found.

JarC

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suave and jarC,

Thanks for the Skin reference, very much needed. Site looks good! " border="0" alt="thumbsup.gif" />

Don't thank me. I have had no part in setting up addons.maxthon.com

Sorry, saw you ID in several places and thought you were involved.

" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> just doing some preliminary translating on the wiki thats all, so my name got attached as 'author' of that piece of text...I'll remove it as it seems to raise the wrong impression.

Koogle

prefered the previous m2 skins & plugins display.... much faster at displaying a large selection of results on a page.. compared to this newer version.. there really ain't anything thats better about it.. the old m2 plugin wasn't so great though, but this newer version doesn't improve it though. where is the 5star rating.. the comment count...exact date/time of publish older m2 skin section view http://res.maxthon.com/Itemlist.aspx?t=36 also this new skin reference guide to me doesn't look appealing.. if i was a newbie skinner coming to m2, i don't think that reference would really inspire me to work on skin.. but thats me.. you should get the old piture guide that shows people how the tab image overlap settings work etc..and get a proper upto date skin for people to pull apart. and why is there big fat yellow buttons everywhere for the install download.. it was done right the first time.. I hate the look of them buttons []

MOMO

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prefered the previous m2 skins & plugins display.... much faster at displaying a large selection of results on a page.. compared to this newer version.. there really ain't anything thats better about it.. the old m2 plugin wasn't so great though, but this newer version doesn't improve it though. where is the 5star rating.. the comment count...exact date/time of publish

The way the addons in general are handled in the new site is 10000 times better than res.maxthon.com, Developers profiles / Installed addons for users / Tagging system are really great, But I agree that the skin layout in res is better than the current one.

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...and why is there big fat yellow buttons everywhere for the install download.. it was done right the first time.. I hate the look of them buttons " border="0" alt="cry.gif" />

Yes, yes and yes! The fixed-width layout is also quite annoying.

neo101

I think the new Addons site is much better than the Resource Center. It was absolute terrible to update & insert plugin descriptions on the resource center (it didn't support new lines & characters like " and ' were escaped in every edit). The only problem I have ATM is that if I update a plugin it disappears for some time. I guess until it's validated or something.. I also like the Profiles [:smile:] edit: oh, and the Tags of course. But I agree that for skins the previous layout was much faster. Requests: - improve error messages. If you go to a page like http://addons.maxthon.com/user/4 All you see is "Application error (Rails)". - improve the pagination, by adding large "previous" and "next" links. So next to the "More Pages: 1 2 3 ... 71" links.

Koogle

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It was absolute terrible to update & insert plugin descriptions on the resource center (it didn't support new lines & characters like " and ' were escaped in every edit).

ok I've yet to try it.. but if that has been fixed in this newer version then at least thats one good thing..but they could have just fixed that in the older version and I'd have liked that.

JarC

@neo101

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The only problem I have ATM is that if I update a plugin it disappears for some time.

That's not all that's dissapearing...seems the better part of the description on Smilies has fallen off. Which is odd as others are even longer...:so it can't be the length... " border="0" alt="confused.gif" />

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and the Tags of course.

Yep, but perhaps the tag cloud should be using the user selected language only, due to the very unequal distribution English vs Chinese 'add-ons', it soon turns into intricate looking symbols

separate them based on the language of the author who entered them?


@koogle

QUOTE(Koogle @ 2007-05-16 07:08:08 PM) [snapback]399311[/snapback]

you should get the old piture guide that shows people how the tab image overlap settings work etc..

it's also still a work in progress, and at various points there's

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(An example image is needed here to ...

which also indicates it's not done yet.

neo101

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The only problem I have ATM is that if I update a plugin it disappears for some time.

That's not all that's dissapearing...seems the better part of the description on Smilies has fallen off. Which is odd as others are even longer...:so it can't be the length... " border="0" alt="confused.gif" />

Looks like it's by design. All you have to do is click the title to view the complete description

But the UI is completely the same, so it's difficult to view the difference.

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and the Tags of course.

Yep, but perhaps the tag cloud should be using the user selected language only, due to the very unequal distribution English vs Chinese 'add-ons', it soon turns into intricate looking symbols

separate them based on the language of the author who entered them?

Agreed. I don't believe Chinese tags or Chinese plugins & filters are really useful for non-Chinese visitors.

JarC

• Could you please change it so that add-ons are always accessible to the author? if I change something in the text or modify tags, the add-on dissapears from my list, the counter of add-ons I have posted decrements (should also not happen) and I can nolonger access it even myself until its validated again. (very annoying) Validation should also not be even required for edits, it should only be needed for update changes to the actual addon (also should not be needed if the author updates the image)
• the supported characters in a tag should be listed someplace. the hint text says to separate them with a space, so I assumed a dash would not be seen as separator, now my tag is spliced in two and meaningless. Please allow - as part of tag names.

paddymx

Like the site, but: Links "Any questions and bug reports, please submit them on this page. Thanks a lot..". The "this page" and the other links do not stand out enough. Perhaps a darker color and bold. With 13 pages of skins and more to follow, should have an option to display more per page. Because of the graphics (screenshots) pages are rather slow. Plugins not so bad as not as many screenshots, but, with 72 and more to follow.... "More Pages.." jump. I think the "normal" and "hover" are backwards. Hard to tell what page you are viewing. Otherwise []

suave

Quote: Original posted byJarC at 2007-05-17 12:20

I have tried two times now to submit a M1 skin, both times I received the msg that it was done, but when trying to access what I uploaded (through the tags on my add-ons page) I get told that there is no post to be found.

Every add-ons need be approved by admin after you post [:smile:]

suave

Thanks Koogle and MOMO's suggestion " border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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引用(Koogle @ 2007-05-16 08:08:08 PM) [snapback]399311[/snapback]

...and why is there big fat yellow buttons everywhere for the install download.. it was done right the first time.. I hate the look of them buttons " border="0" alt="cry.gif" />

Yes, yes and yes! The fixed-width layout is also quite annoying.

I have considered about previous layout of Skin, may be implemented after.

BTW, I don't know why fixed-width layout is quite annoying, because of a wide-screen?

suave

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引用(JarC @ 2007-05-16 09:54:24 PM) [snapback]399327[/snapback]

引用(neo101 @ 2007-05-16 07:38:42 PM) [snapback]399315[/snapback]

and the Tags of course.

Yep, but perhaps the tag cloud should be using the user selected language only, due to the very unequal distribution English vs Chinese 'add-ons', it soon turns into intricate looking symbols

separate them based on the language of the author who entered them?

Agreed. I don't believe Chinese tags or Chinese plugins & filters are really useful for non-Chinese visitors.

Yes, almost. But I suppose all kinds of language are shown up in a global site is OK, only list a part of info according your language is not exact and suitable.

Similarly, I can see Janpanese, Korean, Spanish, French and many other language in Del.icio.us, Twitter, etc.

Moreover, more and more non-Chinese can read & speak Chinese now, and at the same time more and more Chinese can read English " border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

BTW, Anyone want to learn Chinese? I'm very glad be a teacher

MOMO

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I have considered about previous layout of Skin, may be implemented after.

Great, Thanks. " border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

QUOTE(suave @ 2007-05-18 09:23:08 AM) [snapback]399555[/snapback]

BTW, I don't know why fixed-width layout is quite annoying, because of a wide-screen?

Yes, You will get an ugly white space, You can hardly find someone using a 800x600 resolution now anyway.

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BTW, Anyone want to learn Chinese? I'm very glad be a teacher

lol