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MxNitro vs pcxFirefox etc.

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MxNitro: 3930

Mx4: 4102

Chrome 39.0.2171.95 m: 3857

pcxFirefox 34.0.5_(2014-12-01) x64: 4119

pcxFirefox 34.0.5_(2014-12-01) x86: 3644

I clearly see, what on my PC pcxFirefox 34.0.5 x64 is 4.5% faster in Peacekeeper browser test than MxNitro.

But, when I open IT news site with news list, scroll list and open some of news in background while continue to scroll news list, pcxFirefox lags, not like Mx4, but lags too. MxNitro not lags, its scrolling and rendering is smooth and fast.

I'm in love with Maxthon since MyIE, I liked Mx2 a lot (it was unstable with Flash, I remember), but since Mx3 I from time to time test another browsers (main reason for me - lags on current tab while in background opens other tabs and some other absent features). And I always returned to Maxthon. I am not very satisfied with Mx4, it lacks some features I'd like to see in it, but I use it and like it.

MxNitro, as I can see, is an experimental project, but I really like it fast start (not a big deal, of course, but...), fast UI framework and independed tabs. As experimental and not main project it lacks features of "mature" browsers, but it looks very interesting for me.

I want a browser on MxNitro platform with features of "big" Maxthon. I'll be happy when ;)

And Mx devs can compile browser with support of "advanced" CPU instructions like SSEx just to be a little faster in tests like "Peacekeeper". But in this case browser will not run on unsupported CPUs.

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What chipset is your PC because on my iCore5 laptop PCXFirefox x64 absolutely blasts the competition coming in at 4866 whilst others at best can be 4200 usually 3600-4100 range. If you want to find a fast x86 browser then try the TeTe Atelier firefox browser now that will score me 3900-4000 so imagine what that guy might do if he worked with 64bit browsing like PCX. Now I tried to get the new Lawlietfox last night which is 34.0.1 but I found it had a virus on it and wouldn't even execute so be careful with it if anyone downloads it and check with multiple virus checkers first. It seems that only PCX keeps up quickly with the latest Mozilla builds. When you did your Peacekeeper test did you make sure most other programs were switched off etc and that you only used one tab etc? Just to make sure its to the full.

PCX is very fast but like all Firefox is can be prone to a slight lag but its usually far less than Maxthon 4. What you have to remember is that both Maxthon 4 and PCX use very little resources, PCX uses a slight bit more than Maxthon 4. So yes Nitro may be smoother browsing but it hogs the resources to do it. Now if I want to read four articles on a particular website and I open up four tabs I do not want my fan bellowing just to do that especially as the site is nothing fantastic with no videos etc. I can open numbers tabs on some sites with Maxthon 4 and know my fan won't even kick in and on PCX it would be minimal. If I tried the same on MXnitro my fan would bellow like an organ at an orchestral meeting in Vienna. I like the smoothness of Opera, Yandex, Cheetah but I just do not want the resource hogging of the Chromium engine. To me my machines lifespan is more important.

I can't say that I've tried the Trident engine much on Maxthon 4 to see if the same amount of lags are still present. I know web browsing on Internet Explorer 11 can be very silky smooth and I look forward to 12 coming in the future if they can get it to the standards of Maxthon etc. If Microsoft does bring out a serious browsing experience in the future then I think we can kiss most other browsers goodbye especially if its as lightweight as it is now on resources. I've kept harping on about how MXnitro is a waste of space and I should remind you that Kingsoft's Cheetah browser on Windows blows it apart scoring 4236 on my PC and Cheetah is absolutely loaded with beautiful features more so than Opera and Yandex, MXnitro will get 4000 in comparison and its barebones. Maxthon will harp on about its barebones for speed but as I keep saying its no faster than any other Chromium browser that is loaded with features.

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30114452 replied at 2014-12-17 15:10 back.gif

What chipset is your PC because on my iCore5 laptop PCXFirefox x64 absolutely blasts the competition ...

Have you tried PaleMoon and/or Waterfox? If so what are your Peacemaker scores with them? Just want to know for comparison.

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I had a feeling a thread like this would happen.

Personally I use Nightly builds from fbuild.com as I feel Pale Moon/Waterfox/Cyberfox/etc are placebo. Secondary choice is Chromium.

Also, synthetic benchmarks do not indicate how fast a browser is neither am I a fan of Intel's 'cripple AMD' compiler.

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I never use Mozilla builds they are always way too slow on benchmarking and I have no problems at all with PCXFireFox, LawlietFox or Tete. Palemoon is based on the old Firefox engine so its lacking but probably works far better than any old Firefox. Waterfox is a bit of a waste of time kind of like NXnitro and so is Cyberfox except the latter is customizable or was. I would never use Chromium because its too resource heavy therefore I will always use Maxthon 4 or PCXfirefox if not then I might go to Internet Explorer 11 down to resources you see. Believe me I do not base everything on benchmarks I power use my browsers sometimes having a minimum 30 tabs open and the highest was 266 tabs in a slightly older Chromium based Opera.

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I have an AMD FX-8350 CPU, GeForce GTX 970, 16GB RAM and Samsung 940 Pro SSD for system partition.

Intel's CPU "per core" perfomance is a lot better, especially with using advanced SIMD or multimedia instructions. On Intel platform browser tests scores must be better.

But when I choosed platform last time, AMD 8-cores CPU fits better for my needs (several running VMs at once).

And I really like IE's rendering perfomance and smoothness too. It's the best on Windows platform. But it is not crossplatform and "from the box" it's complexion is very plain.

I was used to Maxthon features "from the box", therefore I want a "better" Maxthon, I think, and was unable to switch to other browser. On my PC I just dont feel "resource hog" of MxNitro, I feel what it is interesting project.

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Dark_D!ver replied at 2014-12-18 02:20 back.gif

I have an AMD FX-8350 CPU, GeForce GTX 970, 16GB RAM and Samsung 940 Pro SSD for system partition.

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Your chipset isn't as much as a spyware from hell as the Intel processors. Do some study on the evils of the Intel Vpro spy-chips from hell but I'm sure AMD have a version. I'd much rather have the Russian quad-core ARM chipset which is coming soon for security against the NSA/GCHQ/FiveEyes. I have a dreaded Intel iCore5 2.6Ghz with a normal HD, 6GB and integrated HD4000 so I can imagine what is possible with desktop versions of the processor and good graphics cards. My problem with graphics cards is that many now use fans and waste wattage. It is interesting how my mobile iCore5 with integrated graphics HD4000 is far faster than your machine. I fear upgrading mine because the new chipsets are more about lowering Ghz to save energy. I will wait for a while but the next will be fanless probably meaning a further downing of speed compared to mine.

Now we have browser companies forcing us over to wasting more juice and resources we truly do not need. I want to visit a website for a news article which should use no resources but now its all HTML5 intensive and the adverts, silly extras etc all want to hammer my PC and browser. Its all getting pathetic and hindering the web in my eyes, plus I find many of the themes are just looking silly. I have a website and I use the lightest themes, virtually no plugins and its a good font text that is all, people have no issues with my site.

Internet Explorer has some incredible speeds at times and it is very light on resources at least with just a few tabs open. I love how little resources it uses for video-streaming. Internet Explorer 12 needs to have an extension feature like the other browsers and some good things built in like Maxthon or better. If it can sort itself out then it could very easily become the top dog browser and I would switch in a blink of an eye. I hope they make some serious improvements in Internet Explorer 12 on Windows 10.

MXnitro is far from interesting its a useless project to start with. Maxthon would have been much better off making a loaded Chrome or not bothering. Ideally they should spend their time on Maxthon 4,5,6 and trying to get rid of some of its lagging.

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Wilser replied at 2014-12-19 01:08 back.gif

Hello, I see that make great arguments for the scores from PeeceKeeper, but I see the links on the r ...

Benchmarks are never true, you can see what happened to Samsung when they played Antutu. ;P

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Since going back onto Opera last night I noticed today that Opera 28 Developer (Chrome/41.0.2236.0) was released so I upgraded my version. On Peacekeeper although it looked fast, it did score lower than the previous 27 version with a score of 3287 instead of 3900. I've had to go back to the Opera 27 beta because the source code 'find' function is broke and crashes the damn browser.

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loooping8 replied at 2014-12-19 21:53 back.gif

My test result with Mx Nitro :

What processor, ram, graphics and OS you using? I've noticed the new Yandex alpha and the new Opera 28 Developer have lowered their scores from the 4000 range to the 3300 on my 2.6Ghz iCore5 6G HD4000 Windows 8.1 machine. Cheetah from Kingsoft still kicks out a whooping 4236 and Maxthon 4 is around 4100. I'm using the Opera 27 beta at the moment which kicks in around 3900 (using it as 28 Developer has a bug where it crashes when you try to use the 'find' feature during source code viewing).

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Lots of number waving around here. At the end of the day you should be using the browser that suits your browsing/work habits the best. No point in having one that is blazingly fast but missing all the features you require to do your job.

The difference of a few hundred points here or there I don't think makes any difference to anyone apart from those that want to say "hey look at me, my number is bigger!!"

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7twenty replied at 2014-12-20 18:59 back.gif

Lots of number waving around here. At the end of the day you should be using the browser that suits ...

Exactly. And all these posts lately raving about all the Firefox clones and how good they are and how great every other browser is, is getting real boring. Rave about them in their own forums, not here.

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